I've been having an interesting - I was going to call it discussion - but I think sniping match sums it up better - with A J Chasswess on a post about women being responsible for men's sexual response.
A J Chasswess said many things, including implying that I was a prostitute for wearing a singlet. But this was what I wanted to respond to:
This is the same attitude you display in refusing to help men in their battle against their animality [by not wearing a singlet], purely for the sake of ego.Now like many feminists I roll my eyes when all too many discussions about the oppression of women get quickly turned into discussion about how Patriarchy Hurts Men To. But I do think the view that women as objects for men, always ends up limiting and insulting men. A J's comment makes that startlingly clear. The idea that the sight of women's bodies will turn a man into an animal would restrict women's lives hideously, but it's also extremely degrading to men.
I believe that men can choose to treat women as people. I don't believe that there is anything inside themselves that men have to battle, but the world that they are born into and the power that world gives them.