tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post114611718450816516..comments2023-10-30T02:03:56.081+13:00Comments on Capitalism Bad; Tree Pretty: Employment optionsMaiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17212711843307060731noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1146381652201917502006-04-30T19:20:00.000+12:002006-04-30T19:20:00.000+12:00My library didn't stock it! I'm such a mouthy git...My library didn't stock it! I'm such a mouthy git that I didn't bother to let such a trivial issue stand in the way of butting in - but then, at least I'm self-aware enough to realise what a wanker I am...Psycho Milthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00779500926576047736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1146307220984722032006-04-29T22:40:00.000+12:002006-04-29T22:40:00.000+12:00Thanks psycho milt:-) Did you shift the book?Thanks psycho milt:-) Did you shift the book?Lindsay Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1146306109879806342006-04-29T22:21:00.000+12:002006-04-29T22:21:00.000+12:00Now, Lindsay. I recall a few years back when Inte...Now, Lindsay. I recall a few years back when Internal Affairs sent an email to the librarians' listserv to let us know that if we had this particular book on shelves where anyone under 18 could get at it, we'd better shift it to where they couldn't. I wrote back to them to let them know this particular librarian thought they could stick their demand up their collective arse. And they sent a nice message back telling me that by virtue of being the "Office of Film and Literature Classification" and the "Department of Internal Affairs", constituted by a democratically-elected NZ govt, their pronouncements were essentially the pronouncements of New Zealand society, regardless of any anti-censorship librarians' views on the matter. So there you have it - by virtue of being on a sickness benefit or the DPB, your status is essentially a pronouncement of New Zealand society - in eother words, "societally recognised". I hope this clears it up for you.Psycho Milthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00779500926576047736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1146275330097427022006-04-29T13:48:00.000+12:002006-04-29T13:48:00.000+12:00"There should be no consequences for people on the..."There should be no consequences for people on the sickness benefit or the DPB (or the unemployment benefit, but that's another rant) if they avoid WINZ's 'employment services'. Otherwise the state is compelling people who have a societally recognised reason not to work in paid employment at that time to do things that the state believes will help them return to work at some future time."<BR/><BR/>What do you mean by "societally" recognised? There is considerable divergence of thought about when, for instance, a single parent should rejoin the workforce. <BR/><BR/>You are against the state "compelling" people to work. But the state compels people to pay taxes. The system you approve of uses force against some and not against others. You are inconsistent.Lindsay Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1146195208975724392006-04-28T15:33:00.000+12:002006-04-28T15:33:00.000+12:00That's true Maria, ever since Labour's been in gov...That's true Maria, ever since Labour's been in government unemployment has dropped by 30%.Little Red Riding Hoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07864304083493327692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1146177784508073632006-04-28T10:43:00.000+12:002006-04-28T10:43:00.000+12:00>do you know if your on the sickness benefit due t...>do you know if your on the sickness benefit due to pregnancy and change over to the DPB because you give birth, they give you a weeks stand-down the week the babies born<BR/><BR/>If that is true (which I assume it is) it is utterly appalling. Particularly when you consider that if you have a job you get 12 (or is it 14) weeks of paid parental leave from when the baby is born because having babies is very expensive and parents should be supported by the state in this important life event. What the stand down period says is that if you don't have a job then obviously you somehow need less support and can easily cope with a week with no income. And all I can say to that is WTF!?! <BR/><BR/>To me that is absolutely unconscionable. I think I feel a letter writing campaign coming on.Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04797661728002935006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1146176235237135372006-04-28T10:17:00.000+12:002006-04-28T10:17:00.000+12:00Well, I tend to agree with nick on this one actual...Well, I tend to agree with nick on this one actually.<BR/><BR/>I think that the biggest risk with these (and we'd be blind to think otherwise) is that when National and their cronies get back into power eventually, they'll simply change the tone of Work and Income and use this framework helpfully established for them to force those receiving benefits to work.<BR/><BR/>That said, it's on a rare occasion that I've ever gone into Work and Income and been treated like a human being. If I ever have to use their services I try as hard as possible to go to one in a middle class suburb where you wont get pariah status...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1146175849331520032006-04-28T10:10:00.000+12:002006-04-28T10:10:00.000+12:00Maria the ERA is basically the ECA with access rig...Maria the ERA is basically the ECA with access rights, for all the language of good faith. <BR/><BR/>Unions still don't have their rights, most importantly they don't have the right to strike.<BR/><BR/>I'll give you the minimum wage increases, but that's virtually the only progressive thing Labour has done since the Alliance was its coalition partner.<BR/><BR/>Personally I don't have any desire to work with the Labour party. There are some issues (primarily youth rates I guess), which I hope people in the Labour party will work on. But if that's dependant on me not thinking that the Labour party is right-wing, then it's not going to happenMaiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17212711843307060731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1146136941593210132006-04-27T23:22:00.000+12:002006-04-27T23:22:00.000+12:00"evil, right-wing Labour party"?You mean the Labou..."evil, right-wing Labour party"?<BR/><BR/>You mean the Labour party who:<BR/><BR/>* removed the ECA and brought in the ERA<BR/>* gave unions back their rights<BR/>* have significantly reduced unemployment<BR/>* have significantly increased the minimum wage for workers<BR/><BR/>not saying I disagree, but be careful with those labels if you want us to actually try and work with you.Foggy in Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09672853416820424778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1146135760777684592006-04-27T23:02:00.000+12:002006-04-27T23:02:00.000+12:00It's not just beyond their capabilities. WRK4U an...It's not just beyond their capabilities. WRK4U and Worktrack suck in a really insulting and boring way. If it's about making people jump through hoops, then it'll make their life worse. Plus introducing employment for someone who has just had to quit their job because of illness could have really negative affects.Maiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17212711843307060731noreply@blogger.com