tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post114510244286742812..comments2023-10-30T02:03:56.081+13:00Comments on Capitalism Bad; Tree Pretty: East BeastsMaiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17212711843307060731noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1146455944859923992006-05-01T15:59:00.000+12:002006-05-01T15:59:00.000+12:00The teachers never did anything against it, and it...The teachers never did anything against it, and it was at least in part encouraged (as a tool to "build school pride").<BR/><BR/>"only helped in creating arrogant, macho fuckwits. And I have serious doubts as to whether it's any better today..."<BR/><BR/>I 100% agree with this comment - in order to succeed at Coll, you had to become an arrogant macho fuckwit. If you weren't willing to do that, you either became a total loner or you left (I chose the latter option).Asherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01782227406470450089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1145568687558014652006-04-21T09:31:00.000+12:002006-04-21T09:31:00.000+12:00Asher - I totally understand what you mean. I have...Asher - I totally understand what you mean. I have friends who went to Wellington College over 10 years ago who are still resentful about the way the place is run. (Similarly, friends who went to Auckland Grammar.) It just doesn't provide the emotional support that vulnerable teenagers need. This morning I asked my brother (who went to Wellington College in the 90s) about the chant, and he said yeah, it happened, and the teachers did nothing about it. They thought it was just "a bit of fun" and harmless. He hated that school.Sofiyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02271450822046525653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1145528479931888342006-04-20T22:21:00.000+12:002006-04-20T22:21:00.000+12:00Do the teachers really do nothing while this is be...Do the teachers really do nothing while this is being chanted Asher?<BR/><BR/>That is seriously disturbing.<BR/><BR/>(Are there any other verses apart from the hips/fish & Chips verse).Maiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17212711843307060731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1145508714389856862006-04-20T16:51:00.000+12:002006-04-20T16:51:00.000+12:00I went to Wellington College, and can vouch for th...I went to Wellington College, and can vouch for the fact that that was more or less the only thing that all 4 schools would chant together at McEvedy...<BR/><BR/>Fuck, I still can't believe I lasted so long at that school. Pure evil.Asherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01782227406470450089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1145500153082682402006-04-20T14:29:00.000+12:002006-04-20T14:29:00.000+12:00Oh my experience of all boys school was that it wa...Oh my experience of all boys school was that it was a stew pot for misogyny and hatred of girls, propagated by the beloved sporting talented majority, who found great humour in talking about rape, molestation, bitches and sluts, and would look down upon anyone with a contrary view. Then there are the proportion of boys absolutely terrified of girls because they don't fit the mould of bad boy sports jocks that always seem to get the attention of girls. A good place to separate dominant and subservient males, but not intelligently sensitive and confident ones.Libertyscotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12741049550997300680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1145313670692939232006-04-18T10:41:00.000+12:002006-04-18T10:41:00.000+12:00I was there '92-'95. I think I vaguely knew him, b...I was there '92-'95. I think I vaguely knew him, but I was a bit of a shrinking violet socially, so I can't say I remember any salient features about him. I seldom watch television, so I didn't know about the beer commercials.<BR/><BR/>As an academic in the humanities, I don't think I'd say a majority of arty men are extra-obnoxious. I can understand the wavelength of arty men more easily than I can understand who are engineers or pilots, for example, but misogyny can lurk in any profession... sadly....Sofiyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02271450822046525653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1145305218828563722006-04-18T08:20:00.000+12:002006-04-18T08:20:00.000+12:00Oh lord, artsy men/boys can be the most obnoxiousl...Oh lord, artsy men/boys can be the most obnoxiously "macho," I've found. You know, proof that just because they're all creative and stuff, "I'M NOT GAY!!!"belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1145280068192936872006-04-18T01:21:00.000+12:002006-04-18T01:21:00.000+12:00Sofiya what years were you at East? Do you remembe...Sofiya what years were you at East? Do you remember Richard Chapman. He's starring in beer commercials now (which is oddly appropriate for this conversation).Maiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17212711843307060731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1145223574014978292006-04-17T09:39:00.000+12:002006-04-17T09:39:00.000+12:00Yeah, but on the other hand, I'd definitely send a...Yeah, but on the other hand, I'd definitely send a daughter of mine to a girls' school. I'd even send her to East, which I didn't find as painful and tortuous as most people tend to find high school.Sofiyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02271450822046525653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1145222391714930452006-04-17T09:19:00.000+12:002006-04-17T09:19:00.000+12:00This sort of thing is exactly the reason why, if I...This sort of thing is exactly the reason why, if I had a son, I would never send him to a boys school. I did't go to school in New Zealand but I did go to a girls school and we put up with exactly the same sort of crap from the brother school. It still makes me really angry to recall the amount of sexual harassment and the raw aggression towards girls in the environment.Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04797661728002935006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1145200442081711762006-04-17T03:14:00.000+12:002006-04-17T03:14:00.000+12:00Really? One of the school production guys did that...Really? One of the school production guys did that? Wow, I had no idea. I was in the orchestra for school shows every year I was there, and I had this ridiculous idea that those guys were somehow less sexist and less filled with that obnoxious male sense of entitlement than the Coll status quo.Sofiyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02271450822046525653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1145197072053078792006-04-17T02:17:00.000+12:002006-04-17T02:17:00.000+12:00I don't remember hearing the chant when I was at s...I don't remember hearing the chant when I was at school either. But it must have been around, because Georgie Pie closed shortly after I finished high school.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure about the arty type though. I was involved in school productions, and the boys from other schools who were involved in that tended to be the arty types. They'd create their own little sub-culture because Wellington College's main culture wasn't really about being in plays.<BR/><BR/>One of those guys painted a 'B' in front of the Wellington East sign. Showing that just because you're outside typical ideas of masculinity that's no reason not to shit all over women.Maiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17212711843307060731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1145194809020045102006-04-17T01:40:00.000+12:002006-04-17T01:40:00.000+12:00Hmm. I went to East too. I don't think I ever hear...Hmm. I went to East too. I don't think I ever heard the song, though. I was more the gentle arty type and I didn't really encounter any hassles from kids at other schools. But that might have been different if I hadn't been white or thin or stereotypically "girly"-looking. It's awful how misogyny works even against teenage schoolgirls.Sofiyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02271450822046525653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1145183876353080682006-04-16T22:37:00.000+12:002006-04-16T22:37:00.000+12:00You're right, that's terrible. Hello. I found you ...You're right, that's terrible. <BR/><BR/>Hello. I found you through Angry for a Reason. Good to see another blogger from the underside of the globe. :)hexyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12189529529520498603noreply@blogger.com