tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post2028077079203427909..comments2023-10-30T02:03:56.081+13:00Comments on Capitalism Bad; Tree Pretty: Five letters about Dollhouse Episode 4Maiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17212711843307060731noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-87910710329765323012009-03-21T11:57:00.000+13:002009-03-21T11:57:00.000+13:00Thanks for your comments. Lauren said what I was ...Thanks for your comments. <BR/><BR/>Lauren said what I was trying to say - of course I don't think they should leave out sexual violence altogher, I just think they should stop using sexual violence as a minor plot-point. For instance I think the sexual violence in the second episode was saying something about sexual violence. <BR/><BR/>Ashley - I agree with everything you say about the whole concept of the show and consent. I just think that means that before they answer some of those questions they shouldn't use sexual violence when they're not prepared to discuss those issues.<BR/><BR/>I might try and write a longer post about these issues to be more precise about what I'm trying to say.Maiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17212711843307060731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-80355495844293983422009-03-21T05:44:00.000+13:002009-03-21T05:44:00.000+13:00Anonymous #1, piss off. And learn punctuation.As f...Anonymous #1, piss off. And learn punctuation.<BR/><BR/>As far as sexual violence goes, I think I have to agree with Maia on this one. Although I really like the issues you bring up, Ashley. Dollhouse is exciting to me when I think about it in terms of consent and capitalism. But I think Maia has a point in that, even though the broader point of the show may be to examine the nuances of sexual violence, when it's brought up as a plot point in rather staid, formula ways, it detracts from the show's potential to say something radical and bold about sexual identity under patriarchy. And it makes me less willing to trust what they have to say too.Lauren Eggert-Crowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951415177750563739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-73105403497276876282009-03-19T21:16:00.000+13:002009-03-19T21:16:00.000+13:00I have to agree with the previous commenter, Ashle...I have to agree with the previous commenter, Ashley. I don't think you can find a better fictional vehicle to bring up discussions about objectification and dehumanization. I'm going to have faith (no pun intended) in Whedon on this one, I hope it's a recurring theme that he's seeding to deal with more directly. <BR/><BR/>However, he's going to have to earn an audience's attention and respect before many viewers are going to be willing to watch an episode that takes these issues head-on.<BR/><BR/>By the way, Anonymous #1, who gives anyone authority to give moral judgments?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-4538365589125859142009-03-17T06:46:00.000+13:002009-03-17T06:46:00.000+13:00They should leave out sexual violence? Really? I...They should leave out sexual violence? Really? <BR/><BR/>I'm probably one of the biggest advocates of not including sexual violence in art unless the point of the art is to have a meaningful dialogue about sexual violence... But isn't that exactly what Dollhouse is about? The whole concept of the show is an implied question about socialization and power structures as they relate to our agency and identity. Essentially they're asking: what does consent mean in a capitalist or other authoritarian system? And the title's allusion to the Ibsen play makes me really hopeful about how the show will respond to those questions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com