tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post113810191198099926..comments2023-10-30T02:03:56.081+13:00Comments on Capitalism Bad; Tree Pretty: Not Quite a Hypothetical QuestionMaiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17212711843307060731noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1138494710439585902006-01-29T13:31:00.000+13:002006-01-29T13:31:00.000+13:00And note this:O'Brien vs Brown (September 2001)The...And note this:<BR/><BR/>O'Brien vs Brown (September 2001)<BR/>The following article appeared in the Waikato Times, September 2001: <BR/><BR/>Net users warned on defamation<BR/><BR/>New Zealand's growing community of internet users has been put on notice of good behaviour with a landmark court judgment awarding $42,000 against a website contributor for defamation.<BR/><BR/>The penalty, for statements placed on an electronic newsgroup and e-mail list, has raised immediate complaints by internet users that their freedom of speech in website newsgroups could be affected.<BR/><BR/>In a reserved judgment in Palmerston North District Court, finding Manawatu Internet Service director Alan Brown guilty of defamation, Judge Gregory Ross warned net users to be wary of their language -- or face the consequences.<BR/><BR/>"I know of no forum in which an individual citizen has the freedom to say what he likes and in any manner he wishes about another individual citizen with immunity from suit for all consequences," Judge Ross said.<BR/><BR/>"Merely because the publication is being made to cyberspace does not alter this ... There can be no question that publication on the internet counts as publication for defamation purposes."<BR/><BR/>The action was taken by Patrick O'Brien, ex-chief executive of the New Zealand Internet Registry, trading as Domainz. A third party posted criticism of Domainz procedures.<BR/><BR/>Awarding $30,000 general damages, Judge Ross also imposed punitive damages of $12,000.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1138486825342039652006-01-29T11:20:00.000+13:002006-01-29T11:20:00.000+13:00This might be useful:What is a defamatory statemen...This might be useful:<BR/><BR/>What is a defamatory statement?<BR/><BR/>The courts have given a number of different definitions of what is "defamatory", including a statement that tends to lower a person in the estimation of right-thinking members of society, or that tends to cause the person to be shunned or avoided, or that tends to cause the person to be exposed to hatred, contempt or ridicule. <BR/><BR/>The particular words used are assessed in their context, but examples of what have been considered to be defamatory statements are:<BR/><BR/>claims or suggestions of anti-social behaviour <BR/><BR/>claims or suggestions of fraud or dishonesty, or of incompetence<BR/><BR/>If it is found that the words do convey a defamatory meaning, the defendant will be liable even if this was not intended. <BR/><BR/>http://www.howtolaw.co.nz/html/ml146.aspAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1138361087900097992006-01-28T00:24:00.000+13:002006-01-28T00:24:00.000+13:00Maia, a witch hunt is not an individual action, it...Maia, a witch hunt is not an individual action, it's the harnessing of social power, through gossip or rumour or other unsubstantiated claims. I don't think the witch hunt against Peter Ellis was helpful to the victims of sexual abuse because it created a backlash and is still used by masculinist extremists to discredit women's claims.<BR/><BR/>I do think we should listen to our own gut reactions when making a judgement about a person's character, but sharing our misgivings involves more complex ethical considerations. If someone is committing an offence, there are legal remedies available.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1138307243845361572006-01-27T09:27:00.000+13:002006-01-27T09:27:00.000+13:00well said!well said!lost clownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02751161198550585778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1138271015356275632006-01-26T23:23:00.000+13:002006-01-26T23:23:00.000+13:00I'm probably going to write a little more about th...I'm probably going to write a little more about this soon, but I do think gossip and heresay play an important role in women keeping themselves safe (I have a friend who was taken aside by an older girl in intermediate school and warned to stay away from a particular teacher, this teacher was convicted of abuse while she was at the school).<BR/><BR/>I don't think I could conduct a witch hunt against this man because I don't have any power over him. I have no problem judging those with more power than me on pretty much anything I want to.Maiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17212711843307060731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1138267933783632412006-01-26T22:32:00.000+13:002006-01-26T22:32:00.000+13:00Much as I abhor domestic violence, I don't think i...Much as I abhor domestic violence, I don't think it's right to pass judgement on someone on the basis of hearsay, even if it comes from a reliable source. Of such stuff are witch hunts made.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1138190319615513422006-01-26T00:58:00.000+13:002006-01-26T00:58:00.000+13:00Sorry I don't know nearly enough about libel laws....Sorry I don't know nearly enough about libel laws.Maiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17212711843307060731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1138171305943667492006-01-25T19:41:00.000+13:002006-01-25T19:41:00.000+13:00Hey way too much titilation there Maiaabstract aca...Hey way too much titilation there Maia<BR/><BR/>abstract academia don't cut it here <BR/><BR/> everyone wants to be in the in crowd and know who is the dude,give us a clue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17759756.post-1138137915191097342006-01-25T10:25:00.000+13:002006-01-25T10:25:00.000+13:00Ay yi yi.Yeah, I know the dilemma. I personally w...Ay yi yi.<BR/>Yeah, I know the dilemma. I personally work in a DV shelter and all I can say is, someone will have to demonstrate theat they have changed, because, unfortunately they don't. No many how many batterers groups they attend, they won't change until their fundamental views on women change.<BR/><BR/>So no, I wouoldn't listen to him either.lost clownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02751161198550585778noreply@blogger.com